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How do you weigh in on the Vance-couch conversation?

12.06.2025 18:31

How do you weigh in on the Vance-couch conversation?

Decadent Girl by Ramon Casas. Public domain.

We need to stop shaming people for healthy activities they do in the privacy of their own homes.

I don’t see what’s wrong with banging couches.

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It’s a creative form of masturbation that may feel pretty darn good.

Vance didn’t, or that’s the story. And honestly, I believe it. He’s a bit too uptight for that sort of thing.

This, if he’d done it, would be perfectly okay.

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Masturbation isn’t bad. It provides most of the benefits of sex, many of which actively improve human health, with zero risk of disease or pregnancy. It is an objectively good thing that most of us ought to do more often. Not for pleasure, though pleasure is also good, but for our health.

Creativity is also good, especially as the story would cause no harm to the couch and didn’t involve any direct contact with it. There’s no ick factor here, just a young person having fun in a way that doesn’t harm or impose upon anyone else.

But what if he had? Why are we shaming him for this? Why would we shame anyone for this?

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